Mon 7 Jul 2008
POLITICS: Putting the Obama Birth Certificate Problem to Rest (Not So Fast)
Posted by bobsikes under UncategorizedWhile AJ Strata’s post on the matter yesterday was widely accepted as persuassive, some are calling for pause. One interested commentor at Just One Minute was curious to the source of this statement:
But more than that, numerous people have called the state of Hawaii who initially claimed the document was legit, and that they did provide a new copy to Obama on the date noted on the back.
I still wonder why in the world the Obama camp were compelled to use KOS to answer querries about his BC. Maybe its the fact that they don’t want to have to answer anymore questions as to why he changed his name to Obama.
Personal Admission: I would have placed this in AJ’s comments if I had been able to remember my log-in infor at his site. DOPE!
July 7th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Send me an email with your name a temp password and I will fix it!
The claim came from all those who called the HI state office who found no denial that Obama was issued a new certificate. You need the state to claim they did not issue one for there to be a forgery!
Since the state at one time said the Kos image looked to be legit (and I am sure they checked their records to see if they issued one) then it is a QED statement
Cheers, AJStrata
July 7th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
AJ still didn’t answer this…
that they did provide a new copy to Obama on the date noted on the back.
Now he is proving a negative. The state cannot discuss Obama’s birth certificate. Period. AJ made that part up because they didn’t deny issuing it?
July 7th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Again, let me stress, the state has said over and over and over, they cannot discuss the particulars of Obama’s birth certificate, or even if there is one on file. The state said that. And from that, AJ pretends they admitted they sent him one on the date we see on the back of the document? And this has been sent all over the internet. Good grief!
July 7th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
AJ: You’ve assumed wrong. Janice Okubo, a spokesman for Hawaii’s Dept. of Health, specifically stated that she could not, in fact, confirm that they had issued a certification, nor could she confirm the information in any of the putative copies that had been emailed to her. She could confirm that requests had been made, but she could not confirm either who made them or whether those requests were filled. Providing any or all of the information above would require a specific release from the certificate holder, or in some instances immediate family members.
The only quote I’ve seen from Ms. Okuba which sounds definitive was originally provided by Amy Hollyfield, in St. Pertersburg, on June 18th:
On June 27th, however, when Ms. Hollyfield wrote up a subsequent contact regarding the seal. Ms. Okuba was apparently not prepared to confirm much of anything. Indeed, contra your assumption, the only record she apparently consulted the first time was a copy of her own “birth certificate” (Hollyfield’s term):
Among the “numerous people” contacting HI, we have Israel Insider, on June 24th:
On June 26th, responding to Israel Insider’s piece above, Jim Geraghty reported:
Although you appear to be modifying your original claim in your response above, “all those who called the HI state office” clearly did not make the claim being challenged by Sue. Unless you can cite someone in actual support of your contention, it appears that no one asserted the HI Health Dept confirmed “that they did provide a new copy to Obama on the date noted on the back.” All we’ve really gotten from HI is that whatever they’ve been emailed looks like it could be an image of a legitimate certification. But then, that’s what it’s supposed to look like, isn’t it?